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Building Science

How the Stack Effect Can Defeat Your Winterizing Efforts

Some of the standard tips for winterizing a home may give you a warm and fuzzy feeling but won't give you a warm and cozy house

Caulk Man, looking for leaks in all the wrong places. The big holes and the big pressure differences are at the top and bottom of the house, not the windows and doors.
Image Credit: Mtsofan, from flickr.com

Caulk your windows. Weatherstrip your doors. It’s that time of year again.

No, I don’t mean the time of year when you should do those things. I mean it’s the time of year when all the news stories that include this ineffective advice start appearing. There’s a lot of bad advice included in those articles, but let’s just look at why the caulking and weatherstripping advice will provide minimal relief.

The first problem with caulking and weatherstripping

I’ve written about this topic a number of times. Most recently, it was my article about . I covered a number of their bad tips but gave only a cursory answer to the caulking and weatherstripping issue:

Why? Because doing this will reduce your total air leakage by a small amount. The bigger leaks are in your crawl space or basement and in your attic.

That is Reason Number 1 that caulking and weatherstripping aren’t going to help a whole lot. When you’ve got really big holes in the ceiling or floor, the gaps around the windows and doors pale in comparison. For example, there’s the in the floor, as shown in Image #2 at the bottom of this page.

The open chase to the attic is another biggie (Image #3, below). The mechanical closet in the photo had no ceiling.

Occasionally contractors or homeowners put really crazy holes in the ceiling. My in-laws had a hole cut in their kitchen ceiling (Image #4, below), and the best I could figure was that the remodeling contractor who did their kitchen a few years earlier thought their refrigerator needed to be vented to the attic.

Another crazy hole found in someone’s home was the one shown in Image #5.…

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10 Comments

  1. User avater
    Dana Dorsett | | #1

    OMG!
    In picture # 2, is that what it appears to be, plank sheathing on an uninsulated unsealed wall there behind the tub? (With copper plumbing in the exterior wall no less!)

    Nice visual on the stack effect with the plastic tarp draped building!

  2. User avater GBA Editor
    Martin Holladay | | #2

    Response to Dana Dorsett
    Dana,
    Pipe staging enclosed by polyethylene provides a good opportunity for photographers to document the stack effect. In an old Q&A thread on GBA, you can find two more examples of this type of photo:
    https://lakesideca.info/community/forum/general-questions/24286/i-need-photo-stack-effect

  3. Brian W | | #3

    Air sealing a PWF basment
    Does anyone have a suggestion on the best way to air seal a basement with a Permanent wood foundation and wood floor? I've read about the importance of air sealing in basements with a slab especially along the slab edge, but this basement wouldn't have a slab. The floor would be framed on sleepers sitting on a gravel base covered with polyethylene. Would spray foaming along the bottom edges of the wall-gravel connection be sufficient? Or rather along the entirety of the floor in between the joists? Is air sealing down here even important enough?

    The reason I'm asking is that I don't want all our air sealing techniques on the first floor to be wasted if I'm going to be leaving the basement susceptible. Thanks for any responses.

  4. Brian W | | #4

    just a note . . . this is not
    just a note . . . this is not my house, just a picture I attached for reference. We've not started our project yet.

  5. User avater GBA Editor
    Allison A. Bailes III, PhD | | #5

    Response to Dana Dorsett
    That definitely seems to be wood seen through the bathtub hole, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't an exterior wall. It was an older house that had been renovated and this was in the new part (hence the plywood subfloor).

    Boston was full of stack effect examples like the one shown here when I visited for the NESEA conference last year. It seemed everywhere I turned, there was another big building under construction and wrapped in plastic.

  6. User avater GBA Editor
    Martin Holladay | | #6

    Response to Brian W
    Brian,
    You are definitely right to be concerned. Air can easily enter a building through the soil; since the basement is depressurized with respect to the outdoors due to the stack effect, outdoor air is pulled into the basement through the soil.

    The other concern, of course, is radon. So you need a very good air barrier.

    I would detail this just like a crawl space with polyethylene on the dirt floor. The more robust the air barrier/vapor barrier membrane, the better. At a minimum, use 6 mil poly; other options include a 20-mil pool liner or Tu-Tuf poly.

    All air barrier/vapor barrier seams need to be carefully sealed with high quality tape or mastic, and the air barrier/vapor barrier under the subfloor needs to be sealed to the air barrier membrane on the walls.

    For more information, see:

    Building an Unvented Crawl Space

    All About Radon

  7. Charlie Sullivan | | #7

    uninsulated bathtub wall and suicide vent
    My house started out with plenty of giant air leaks, including the classic hole under the bathtub, and an uninsulated patch of exterior wall behind the end of the bathtub. The plumbing is at the other end, so no plumbing in an uninsulated exterior wall, but it seems that the plumbers put in the bathtub before the insulation was installed and it wasn't worth figuring out how to put insulation behind the bathtub. That's not quite as bad as what Dana saw in the picture here, but it's similar.

    But that's not the worst such flaw--I think the worst was the floor vent in the master bedroom, going straight through the floor to the garage underneath. No ductwork anywhere in the house, so it's not an abandoned heating register. It's hard to imagine a reason for that vent other than as a provision for murder or suicide.

  8. Malcolm Taylor | | #8

    Brian
    You wrote ". . . this is not my house, just a picture I attached for reference."

    Good! That is some of the oddest floor framing I've ever seen.

  9. Brian W | | #9

    Thanks Martin
    I did some more searching and found someone spray foaming the gravel base under the floor. Should be closed cell right? And I wouldn't need the Tu-Tuf or pool liner? Would this also mitigate the radon issue if there was one?

  10. User avater GBA Editor
    Martin Holladay | | #10

    Response to Brian W
    Brian,
    Yes, you can apply closed-cell spray foam to compacted gravel. This method is usually used before a slab is poured over the cured foam, but it would work under the type of wood-framed floor you are envisioning.

    Properly installed, closed-cell spray foam is a good air barrier, so it would prevent the entry of air or radon through your basement floor. You could indeed skip the polyethylene or Tu-Tuf if you used spray foam.

    Closed-cell spray foam has several disadvantages over EPS, however -- it is far more expensive, and it is manufactured with a blowing agent with a very high global warming potential. If you want insulation, why not just install rigid foam with taped seams?

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